Saturday, November 22, 2008
Friday, November 21, 2008
Disneyland Album - TV Guide January 1955 - Part 3
From January 15-21, 1955, this TV Guide is part three of a four part series called “Disneyland Album”. You can see parts one and two here (Part 1) (Part 2). Check back next Friday for the fourth and last part.
Why Panel Shows are ‘Rigged’. Interesting to note this was almost two years before the Charles Van Doren Twenty-one scandal that put these early games show out of business for a decade.
The TV Teletype – New York Edition. WOW, that episode of Studio One “It might happen tomorrow” sounds like it was way ahead of its time, I sure would like to see it.
The Hollywood TV Teletype (still on the back side!) "ABC is working on plans for Walt Disney to do an hour-long, five-day a week daytime show from his new amusement park 'Disneyland' starting next fall". Did this become the Mickey Mouse Club? I don’t recall the MMC being filmed at Disneyland.
Here’s this weeks Disneyland page featuring Frontierland. Again its slim on info and not really related to the park, except some of those names would appear in Frontierland.
Wednesday’s line-up includes; two Color episodes on “Norby” (never heard of it except in these old TV Guides), the premier episode of “The Millionaire”. 'My name is Michael Anthony…' I loved that show! And of course, Disneyland. This week’s episode has Walt arguing the existence of sea serpents.
Who’s funny now? A young Johnny Carson, Jay’s OK, but sometimes I sure do miss Johnny. There’s Pat Caroll again!
Check back Bonus Sunday for the entire issue, it’s always a fun trip thru time.
Why Panel Shows are ‘Rigged’. Interesting to note this was almost two years before the Charles Van Doren Twenty-one scandal that put these early games show out of business for a decade.
The TV Teletype – New York Edition. WOW, that episode of Studio One “It might happen tomorrow” sounds like it was way ahead of its time, I sure would like to see it.
The Hollywood TV Teletype (still on the back side!) "ABC is working on plans for Walt Disney to do an hour-long, five-day a week daytime show from his new amusement park 'Disneyland' starting next fall". Did this become the Mickey Mouse Club? I don’t recall the MMC being filmed at Disneyland.
Here’s this weeks Disneyland page featuring Frontierland. Again its slim on info and not really related to the park, except some of those names would appear in Frontierland.
Wednesday’s line-up includes; two Color episodes on “Norby” (never heard of it except in these old TV Guides), the premier episode of “The Millionaire”. 'My name is Michael Anthony…' I loved that show! And of course, Disneyland. This week’s episode has Walt arguing the existence of sea serpents.
Who’s funny now? A young Johnny Carson, Jay’s OK, but sometimes I sure do miss Johnny. There’s Pat Caroll again!
Check back Bonus Sunday for the entire issue, it’s always a fun trip thru time.
Thursday, November 20, 2008
Knott's Berry Farm - Before & After part 4
If you’re still with me then hang on because there’s another 25 images again today. Things start off nicely, but you’ll see as my tour progressed it got harder and harder to find the Vintage in the Farm.
Let’s start in Fiesta Village, here’s a great image from an early 80’s brochure.
The fountain is still there, I took this photo from he wrong angle to match the old photo, but since it was from my feeble memory, at least I got the fountain.
The spin and barf Hat Dance from the late 1970’s.
Still spinning and bright as ever!
The old carousel from a 1950’s souvenir guide. Did you know: Knott's carousel is a classic Dentzel carousel. The carousel has 52 animals and two chariots and is considered to be one of the finest examples of the "golden age" carousels still in operation – http://www.bear-ytales.net/
The carousel is now enclosed and I'm sure it has been moved at least once according to the old maps (link).
My camera stinks for these shady shots, but its all still there, and in fine shape too. Some of the animals are a bit scary, those ostrich’s are weird. There were even a couple of giraffes.
This neat music machine was in a space above the carousel. It sure looks old, I would love to have heard it, do you think it still works?
The Skycabin Tower and the Parachute Jump from hell.
Still a tower and sky cabin, but thankfully, no cages daggling from thin cables hundreds of feet up.
This area brings back some darn freighting memories.
Looking at the fountain in front of the wonderful and much missed Knott’s Bear-y Tales attraction.
The fountain looks the same, the rest of the area seems boring now.
Sadly, the Knott’s Bear-y Tales attraction is long gone and the upstairs area appears to be unused or may be a laser tag arena (yikes). The arcade still exists below.
Interesting that this Roaring 20’s sign is still up. I don’t think they have a Roaring 20’s area any longer, unless you count this sign. Do you think it lights up at night?
Technically, this should be filed under “missing”, but, you be the judge. This is part of the super lake that was once a major element of the farm. At one time, this lake was rather large, big enough for the paddle wheeler Cordellia K. (This might be the lake that was across the street, oops...)
Portions of the lake were calm at one time, perfect for a Church or Chappell. Thanks for the 1955 photo Daveland!
This "after" photo is looking in the same direction as Daveland’s 1955 photo above. YIKES, just take the lake out completely, this is an insult.
Speaking of the above view, lets set things back again to the 1950’s. The Church of Reflections as seen in a 1959 Chicken Dinner menu. As you may have noticed in the above photo, the Church is now gone; some giant roller coaster load building is in its place.
The Church of Reflections is still at Knott’s, well, kind of. Its way over on the (west?) side of the parking lot! I accessed it from a path that also leads to a day camp. The Church looks great. I would guess it’s been completely rebuilt using just the windows and other trim from the old building. Maybe not, but it sure seemed “new”.
It’s even got central air conditioning.
Independence Hall as seen from across the street in October 1970, thanks Dave.
As seen today from across the street.
From the back of a 1975 souvenir guide.
As seen today. Hey, this “replica” is amazing. I always thought it was 1/5th scale or something small, its HUGE and VERY authentic.
My camera can’t do the interior any justice; you really should check this place out for yourself. I like this wording on the main entry wall.
This “lake” is around the back side of Independence Hall and appears to have an Island? Part of this area was closed off, I need to come back and check this whole area out better.
Parking was easy, no tram required.
Come back Sunday for a few follow-ups to this series; Full scan of the Current Map/Guide, “What’s Gone”?, and some odds & ends.
Let’s start in Fiesta Village, here’s a great image from an early 80’s brochure.
The fountain is still there, I took this photo from he wrong angle to match the old photo, but since it was from my feeble memory, at least I got the fountain.
The spin and barf Hat Dance from the late 1970’s.
Still spinning and bright as ever!
The old carousel from a 1950’s souvenir guide. Did you know: Knott's carousel is a classic Dentzel carousel. The carousel has 52 animals and two chariots and is considered to be one of the finest examples of the "golden age" carousels still in operation – http://www.bear-ytales.net/
The carousel is now enclosed and I'm sure it has been moved at least once according to the old maps (link).
My camera stinks for these shady shots, but its all still there, and in fine shape too. Some of the animals are a bit scary, those ostrich’s are weird. There were even a couple of giraffes.
This neat music machine was in a space above the carousel. It sure looks old, I would love to have heard it, do you think it still works?
The Skycabin Tower and the Parachute Jump from hell.
Still a tower and sky cabin, but thankfully, no cages daggling from thin cables hundreds of feet up.
This area brings back some darn freighting memories.
Looking at the fountain in front of the wonderful and much missed Knott’s Bear-y Tales attraction.
The fountain looks the same, the rest of the area seems boring now.
Sadly, the Knott’s Bear-y Tales attraction is long gone and the upstairs area appears to be unused or may be a laser tag arena (yikes). The arcade still exists below.
Interesting that this Roaring 20’s sign is still up. I don’t think they have a Roaring 20’s area any longer, unless you count this sign. Do you think it lights up at night?
Technically, this should be filed under “missing”, but, you be the judge. This is part of the super lake that was once a major element of the farm. At one time, this lake was rather large, big enough for the paddle wheeler Cordellia K. (This might be the lake that was across the street, oops...)
Portions of the lake were calm at one time, perfect for a Church or Chappell. Thanks for the 1955 photo Daveland!
This "after" photo is looking in the same direction as Daveland’s 1955 photo above. YIKES, just take the lake out completely, this is an insult.
Speaking of the above view, lets set things back again to the 1950’s. The Church of Reflections as seen in a 1959 Chicken Dinner menu. As you may have noticed in the above photo, the Church is now gone; some giant roller coaster load building is in its place.
The Church of Reflections is still at Knott’s, well, kind of. Its way over on the (west?) side of the parking lot! I accessed it from a path that also leads to a day camp. The Church looks great. I would guess it’s been completely rebuilt using just the windows and other trim from the old building. Maybe not, but it sure seemed “new”.
It’s even got central air conditioning.
Independence Hall as seen from across the street in October 1970, thanks Dave.
As seen today from across the street.
From the back of a 1975 souvenir guide.
As seen today. Hey, this “replica” is amazing. I always thought it was 1/5th scale or something small, its HUGE and VERY authentic.
My camera can’t do the interior any justice; you really should check this place out for yourself. I like this wording on the main entry wall.
This “lake” is around the back side of Independence Hall and appears to have an Island? Part of this area was closed off, I need to come back and check this whole area out better.
Parking was easy, no tram required.
Come back Sunday for a few follow-ups to this series; Full scan of the Current Map/Guide, “What’s Gone”?, and some odds & ends.
Wednesday, November 19, 2008
Knott's Berry Farm - Before & After part 3
Hopefully you’re not sick of Knott’s Before and After, because we've got another big batch of photos today. Check back Friday if you’re in need of some Vintage Disneyland Tickets.
Courtesy of Gorilla’s Don’t Blog, this 1967 view of the Butterfield Stagecoach sure does look inviting.
Unfortunately the Stagecoach was not running the day of my visit, my guess is it runs on days when there are more guests at the farm. The Stagecoach is on my growing list of things to photograph on a follow-up visit.
The path the Stagecoach takes is not quite as scenic as it once was, it also appears to be entirely paved.
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The Music Hall and the Bottle House, way back when.
Both as seen today, neither was open.
A close-up of the Music Hall in the 1950’s. Note the neat little center section on the right between the Music Hall and the Bottle House, its still there.
The Music Hall building today. I peaked inside and it looked like Indian stuff, some current and possibly for sale so maybe this store opens still on busy days. The exterior has been updated with bricks, but the doors, windows and lamps look the same.
Here’s the neat little center section between the two buildings, I love this stuff!
The Bottle House no longer has a door on Music Hall side, a few trim changes, but otherwise very original appearing.
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The Bottle House actually has bottles on at least three sides; this side appears in many old photos.
Some odd metallic structures have sprouted in the background, a few trim changes otherwise on this side its 1955 all over again.
“Crumbled Adobe Wall” from a 1950’s souvenir guide.
I have no idea if these are the same walls, but they are crumbled and they are walls.
“Chief Red Feather” in an old (late 40’s / early 50’s) postcard. This postcard scan is from Jay Jennings amazing Knott’s Berry Farm Museum blog (link). Thanks Jay!
I don’t think he’s a Chief, but he was very knowledgeable and polite. He’s part of a dancing show they do 4 times daily on Thursday and Friday (see entertainment schedule at the end of this long post), probably more shows on weekends. Way to go Knott’s! We vintage Disneyland fans should take note: You can ride a Stagecoach and see a live Indian Dance show at the Farm, something you haven’t been able to do at the Park for decades.
Red’s Leather Shop in 1960.
It doesn’t appear to be “Reds” anymore and the roof line has been altered. The rest of the “Leather Shop” seems really old, and wow, it sure smells like an old leather wallet inside!
This little shop was to the left of the Leather shop, I didn’t go inside, it looked empty or like a jail? Does anyone know what this is or was?
The magnificent No. 41 Steam Train in December 1970, thanks Daveland! Is it just me or have they painted the No. 41 several different colors over the years?
Going to the farm too early on a weekday has it’s draw backs, like the Train, the Museum, all of Fiesta Village and most of the food places are closed for the first hour or two (bad show Knott’s). Anyway, here is the No. 41 getting ready to head out for the day. See - its different color!
This looks like a workshop for the train. It didn’t seem long enough to store the entire length of the trains and cars like Disneyland has the ability to do.
The great Log Ride all shiny and new in this October 1970 photo from Daveland.
The area where the above photo was taken was currently roped off, I think they were undoing part of the Halloween sets, so I was not able to get a good shot of the Log Ride today. Its still there running strong.
From 1967 it’s the Calico Mine Train Ride, a super photo from Gorilla’s Don’t Blog.
A larger queue line is the most significant change today. I can't tell if the color of the rock has changed of if its just these photos?
The little mine train ticket booth looks like this original one! I swear the pretty young lady in the “today” photo would not get out of the way!
One of the mine trains from an old postcard set, undated.
Same type of train today, different number.
From a 1975 Souvenir Guide, here’s the other style of mine train.
Same style of mine train today. I was surprised at the “Disneyland” grade of the paint, fit and finish of these little Trains, nice going Knott’s!
Here’s the current entertainment show guide, more than I expected for week days in Mid-November.
If you can stand it, there’s one more part of this series tomorrow; Fiesta Village, Roaring 20’s (don’t get your hopes up), The Lake? Independence Hall, Church of the Reflections and “What’s Missing”….
Courtesy of Gorilla’s Don’t Blog, this 1967 view of the Butterfield Stagecoach sure does look inviting.
Unfortunately the Stagecoach was not running the day of my visit, my guess is it runs on days when there are more guests at the farm. The Stagecoach is on my growing list of things to photograph on a follow-up visit.
The path the Stagecoach takes is not quite as scenic as it once was, it also appears to be entirely paved.
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The Music Hall and the Bottle House, way back when.
Both as seen today, neither was open.
A close-up of the Music Hall in the 1950’s. Note the neat little center section on the right between the Music Hall and the Bottle House, its still there.
The Music Hall building today. I peaked inside and it looked like Indian stuff, some current and possibly for sale so maybe this store opens still on busy days. The exterior has been updated with bricks, but the doors, windows and lamps look the same.
Here’s the neat little center section between the two buildings, I love this stuff!
The Bottle House no longer has a door on Music Hall side, a few trim changes, but otherwise very original appearing.
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The Bottle House actually has bottles on at least three sides; this side appears in many old photos.
Some odd metallic structures have sprouted in the background, a few trim changes otherwise on this side its 1955 all over again.
“Crumbled Adobe Wall” from a 1950’s souvenir guide.
I have no idea if these are the same walls, but they are crumbled and they are walls.
“Chief Red Feather” in an old (late 40’s / early 50’s) postcard. This postcard scan is from Jay Jennings amazing Knott’s Berry Farm Museum blog (link). Thanks Jay!
I don’t think he’s a Chief, but he was very knowledgeable and polite. He’s part of a dancing show they do 4 times daily on Thursday and Friday (see entertainment schedule at the end of this long post), probably more shows on weekends. Way to go Knott’s! We vintage Disneyland fans should take note: You can ride a Stagecoach and see a live Indian Dance show at the Farm, something you haven’t been able to do at the Park for decades.
Red’s Leather Shop in 1960.
It doesn’t appear to be “Reds” anymore and the roof line has been altered. The rest of the “Leather Shop” seems really old, and wow, it sure smells like an old leather wallet inside!
This little shop was to the left of the Leather shop, I didn’t go inside, it looked empty or like a jail? Does anyone know what this is or was?
The magnificent No. 41 Steam Train in December 1970, thanks Daveland! Is it just me or have they painted the No. 41 several different colors over the years?
Going to the farm too early on a weekday has it’s draw backs, like the Train, the Museum, all of Fiesta Village and most of the food places are closed for the first hour or two (bad show Knott’s). Anyway, here is the No. 41 getting ready to head out for the day. See - its different color!
This looks like a workshop for the train. It didn’t seem long enough to store the entire length of the trains and cars like Disneyland has the ability to do.
The great Log Ride all shiny and new in this October 1970 photo from Daveland.
The area where the above photo was taken was currently roped off, I think they were undoing part of the Halloween sets, so I was not able to get a good shot of the Log Ride today. Its still there running strong.
From 1967 it’s the Calico Mine Train Ride, a super photo from Gorilla’s Don’t Blog.
A larger queue line is the most significant change today. I can't tell if the color of the rock has changed of if its just these photos?
The little mine train ticket booth looks like this original one! I swear the pretty young lady in the “today” photo would not get out of the way!
One of the mine trains from an old postcard set, undated.
Same type of train today, different number.
From a 1975 Souvenir Guide, here’s the other style of mine train.
Same style of mine train today. I was surprised at the “Disneyland” grade of the paint, fit and finish of these little Trains, nice going Knott’s!
Here’s the current entertainment show guide, more than I expected for week days in Mid-November.
If you can stand it, there’s one more part of this series tomorrow; Fiesta Village, Roaring 20’s (don’t get your hopes up), The Lake? Independence Hall, Church of the Reflections and “What’s Missing”….
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